Monday, May 16, 2005

Response to "Why Poker Pros Still Live With Their Moms"

The First Group of Responses is from Danial Negreanu Fans at Fullcontactpoker.com(primarily not serious poker players I would guess)

The Second Group Of Responses is from recpoker.com (primarily not human beings I would guess, lol jk)
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Full Contact Responses
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Jopke
Professional Poker Player Paul Phillips
Sat, May 14th, 2005

What is all this crap?
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Patricnz
Poker Forum Groupie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 5:56

because they love the game and some because they think its easy money where do you get these statistics from by the way?
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Custom36
Poker Forum Veteran

Sat, May 14th, 2005 5:59

The answer is pretty simple to me: They love what they do. It doesn't appeal to you? Good, don't do it. People like you (for some reason) get under my skin.

me thinkith,awww f-it go away....
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happyjuggler0
Poker Forum Newbie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:05

Um, who exactly is living with their mom? A better chance of dying during the WSOP than while on death row in Texas? Where did you learn your math, from the California public school system? There were 2576 players in the main of event of the last WSOP. 5% is approximately 125 players who amazingly died during the tourney and no one noticed. Amazing. I fully expect some sort of sarcastic reply or flame of course based on your last two replies.
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Shakey90
Poker Forum Newbie
Re: hey, it's supposed to allow us to laff at oursel
Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:07

me thinkith,awww f-it go away....[/quote] yeah what he said
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Nate Dogg OC
Poker Forum Newbie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:09

First of all poker is censored not the most dangerous job in the world and I have no idea what made you say that. Fishing for crab in the Bering sea in Alaska has the highest death rate per worker of any job on earth as a matter of fact. Also poker is similar to many desk jobs in terms of the hours spent sitting down and what not, the only difference being that players have more freedom to take breaks if they need to re tune physically. If they misuse that freedom it is not the fault of the profession, it is a personal problem.
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Custom36
Poker Forum Veteran
Re: hey i'm sorry that you whiners live with your moms!
Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:18
My mom's in my dorm? WHERE?!?
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trippkc
Poker Forum Newbie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:22

Wow, why the hell is everyone throwing a fit over this? It was a joke, I'm not sure why anyone here would take offense to this.
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Random Fluke
Poker Forum Groupie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:29:
I agree, why the hell is everyone throwing a fit over this? It was a joke, I'm not sure why anyone here would take offense to this
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pdaconq9
Poker Forum Newbie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:30

Just for the record, the NATIONAL divorce rate in America is around 50% at the moment. It's a shame...
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MilesZS
Poker Forum Veteran

Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:41

Ok, so if no one figured it out this was supposed to be a joke. So... don't try to flame the OP, because it kinda doesn't make sense to flame a post that is a complete joke on purpose.
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pdaconq9
Poker Forum Newbie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 6:30

Just for the record, the NATIONAL divorce rate in America is around 50% at the moment. It's a shame...
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JimD82
Poker Forum Groupie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 8:37

I'm not a pro, but poker has been a nice secondary source of income for me lately. I live with my dad, not because I can't afford to live elsewhere, but it's better this way. He's on business a lot and I get to live in a big house with a big screen tv, pool table, pool, authentic hold'em table. He never gives me a hard time and looks the other way if I bring home an overnight guest. I've been able to save a ton of money so far and will be in great shape once I decide I want to move out on my own.
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Patricnz
Poker Forum Groupie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 8:41

how is posting BS Statistics funny ?????
i sort of expected a halfass response like that you censored please dont ever post on here again. P.S whats the statistic for men over 50 that have to use viagra? you should know surely?

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Lone*Trout*
Poker Forum Newbie
along the same lines....
Sat, May 14th, 2005 10:12

What do you call a professional pker player that just broke up with his girlfriend? Homeless How do you get a professional poker player off your front porch? Pay him for the pizza.
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vaglvr
Poker Forum Veteran

Sat, May 14th, 2005 10:14

You always know your first post went well when it causes a huge flame fest....
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harvey
Poker Forum Newbie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 10:43

I thought it was pretty funny.. although i've read freakonomics... can't believe people couldn't sense that he was at least trying to be funny... especially after he basically outright said it was a joke, lol
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Jelly-Filled Ace
Poker Forum Newbie

Sat, May 14th, 2005 11:00

Well I kicked my Mom out 8 years ago so I don't have this problem anymore. I don't take Viagra and don't call me Surely.
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peppericious
Poker Forum Newbie
funny?
Sat, May 14th, 2005 11:21

But it's not funny. It's not even in the neighborhood of funny. It's just... there. It has the same level of humor as watching static on a television.
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Patricnz
you really are the biggest jerkoff ive ever come across on here and theres people like Kdawg,allinbluff, cumstom36, sapphire and DKE_XP10 (SW) but i am serious about you being a jerkoff
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Random Fluke

Wow, you kids can't take a joke I guess. This is like if I told a blonde joke and some guys started telling me 'blondes aren't really predispositioned to be dumb, you should go f*ck yourself'. Just makes you all sound like lamers with no sense of humour. Even if it isn't funny it is obviously a joke, what the hell is up with the flames.

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Recpoker Responses
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Author: RussGeorgeiv@aol.com

I would live with my mother but she has a restraining order on me..
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Author: ArizonaRed (43080651@recpoker.com)

Well, if you're using Mom's credit card to post your buy-in at Pokerstars then
it probably makes sense to live with her and keep those expenses down.

Not to mention the fact that she can serve as your maid, personal assistant and
be there to remind you to take a shower and brush your teeth every once in a
while before you head off down to the local room for a long night of BIG action.

If you're really nice to her, she might even drive you down there and pick you
up when your done. Just like she used to do when you were in the third grade.
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Author: Lou Krieger (loukrieger@dc.rr.com)

Professional poker player s have a 1-in-2 chance of divorce << href="javascript:popup_window(%20710,%20430," email="%77%63%74%6f%6d%31%40%70%61%63%62%65%6c%6c%2e%6e%65%74&user_id=0',%20'1');">Bill T (wctom1@pacbell.net)
Actually, this is a statistical fallacy which has been promulgated for ages.
The actual claim is that for every marriage there are two divorces each
year. The actual chance of divorce would depend on how long a marriage
typically lasts, and how the population numbers change.
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Author: igotskillz.com (ROYALFLUSH@igotskillz.com)

Lou, i heard similar statistics so i married an Aisan { Philippine }
woman.

only 1 in 10 divorce American men and so far her cooking is tops
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Author: Irish Mike (mjostar@ameritech.net)

Many professional poker players have a tough time and need all the help they
can get. That's why I always tip them extra when they deliver my pizza.
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Author: Tad Perry (tadperry@comcast.net)
Nobody cooks like mom!
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